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    33**ZOOM:** https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1
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    5 == Meeting Agenda ==
     5Attended: PH, KL, JB, MH, CW, ND, AFr
     6
     7== Meeting Notes ==
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    790. Short Recap of In-Person
     
    9111. BioPrep
    1012- Updates:
    11  - JP: Present bio plan
    12 - Actions:
    13  - **EM**: Write up a biology plan
    14   - Decide whether to use Marie's lab and whether to stick with HeLa
    15  - **EM, MB, JP, RA**: Meet to finalise details
    16  - **Unassigned**: Obtain an inverted microscope
     13 - No Update but things discussed:
     14  - Short-term plan is probably use Marie's lab as it has the microscope, etc., but there is a preference to shift to doing everything at SCAPA.
     15  - Monitoring for the incubator, Robbie can do remote monitoring for the incubator using a Raspberry Pi, etc.
     16  - Would be useful to find the hard limit that cells can survive vertically
     17
     18Something has been a problem with burning mirrors that was there before with Ross
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    18202. Simulations
    1921- Updates:
    20  - Josie to present the latest BO results on finding the optimal beamline
     22 - Josie presented the latest BO results on finding the optimal beamline
     23  - [raw-attachment:PoPLaR_update_05March26.pdf Slides]
     24  - Ran several optimisations, all using a laser-driven energy spectrum:
     25   - 2 Quad (Varying positions for transmission)
     26   - 2 Quad (Varying positions for uniformity)
     27   - 2 Quad and 4 Dipoles (Varying positions and varying dipole length and strength as a group for transmission)
     28   - Any Quad Combination (Varying number and position of quads for transmission
     29  - Generally, best results appear to have the beamline elements as close as possible to the source and have the cells as close as possible too.
     30  - To get a more useful optimisation need to specify a beam energy
     31   - Talk to Robbie about the energy spectra graph and its stability
     32   - Talk to the bio team about what energies we should be avoiding (Simulate LET for a range of energies in the cells?)
    2133 - BELLA Paper
     34  - Deliver a 2.0 ± 0.4Gy beam with a lateral dose variation of 7% and centred on 8MeV
     35  - The average uncertainty on their overall dose delivered was 12%
     36  - Beamline consists of a laser-driven source, quad doublet, kapton scattering foil, dipole magnet, mouse ear, RCF and scintillator
     37   - Laser-driven source ran at 7J over 60fs, so lower power than SCAPA, and onto a 13um Kapton target (same as SCAPA).
     38    - The laser was 50um from its optimal focal length to achieve a better shot-to-shot variation. This helped reduce it from 17% to 5%
     39   - Quads are a 250 T/m with 5mm bore radius and 67T/m with 15mm bore radius
     40   - Kapton scattering foil is 25um and is placed there to smooth the beam and remove heavier ions
     41   - Dipole magnet of 264mT and 95mm in length removes x-rays, gamma-rays and electrons
     42   - 25um Kapton exit window
     43   - The mouse ear is ~300um so it allows 8MeV protons to pass through and reach RCF and a scintillator passed that
     44   - Other diagnostics are integrating current transformers
     45    - Would be worth investigating in combination with sci-fi arrays for instantaneous dose measurements
     46  - They delivered a shot every 20s, so they investigated instantaneous FLASH rather than overall FLASH
     47  - Josie will simulate the beam to get a better understanding
     48   - LhARA knows someone at BELLA, so she is the person to ask if any information is missing
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    23503. SCAPA Beamline
    2451- Updates:
    25  - Quick look at Robbie's master's student's work on variation in the energy spectrum and the dose variation
     52 - No update, but things discussed:
     53  - Is there something that can stop the lens element from burning? Maybe something that Ross used to use?
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    27554. In-Beam Diagnostic
    2856- Updates:
    29  - General?
     57 - No update, but things discussed:
     58 - Jeff mentioned putting cells on RCF
     59  - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12340475/#:~:text=5.,delivered%20to%20the%20cell%20substrate.
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    31 5. DoNM
     615. Other beamlines
     62- Updates:
     63 - Josie is sourcing the information to simulate ELI
     64  - Nick suggested emailing since they are usually happy enough to share information
     65 - There is a space to apply for beamtime at ELI
     66  - Deadline is 22nd Apr
     67
     686. DoNM
    3269 - 19th Mar 14:00
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    34 6. AoB
     717. AoB
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    5087- **EM, MB, JP, RA**: Meet to finalise details
    5188- **Unassigned**: Obtain an inverted microscope
     89- **Unassigned**: Run controls to examine how long the cells can survive vertically
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    5391Improve the spatial variation
    54 - **CD, JMcG**: Investigate how to achieve uniformity without a scatterer in place
     92- Decide the energy we should be optimising for
     93 - **RW**: Examine energy spectra variation
     94 - Find LET for different energies in the cell dish
     95
     96Other Beamlines
     97- **JMcG**: Simulate BELLA
     98- **JMcG**: Talk to ELI people and simulate ELI
     99- Build a bid towards ELI
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