wiki:Research/LhARA/RadiationBiology/Meetings/2026-03-05

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LhARA radiobiology; meeting: 05Mar26; 14:00 GMT

ZOOM: https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1

Attended: PH, KL, JB, MH, CW, ND, AFr

Meeting Notes

  1. Short Recap of In-Person
  1. BioPrep
  • Updates:
    • No Update but things discussed:
      • Short-term plan is probably use Marie's lab as it has the microscope, etc., but there is a preference to shift to doing everything at SCAPA.
      • Monitoring for the incubator, Robbie can do remote monitoring for the incubator using a Raspberry Pi, etc.
      • Would be useful to find the hard limit that cells can survive vertically

Something has been a problem with burning mirrors that was there before with Ross

  1. Simulations
  • Updates:
    • Josie presented the latest BO results on finding the optimal beamline
      • Slides
      • Ran several optimisations, all using a laser-driven energy spectrum:
        • 2 Quad (Varying positions for transmission)
        • 2 Quad (Varying positions for uniformity)
        • 2 Quad and 4 Dipoles (Varying positions and varying dipole length and strength as a group for transmission)
        • Any Quad Combination (Varying number and position of quads for transmission
      • Generally, best results appear to have the beamline elements as close as possible to the source and have the cells as close as possible too.
      • To get a more useful optimisation need to specify a beam energy
        • Talk to Robbie about the energy spectra graph and its stability
        • Talk to the bio team about what energies we should be avoiding (Simulate LET for a range of energies in the cells?)
    • BELLA Paper
      • Deliver a 2.0 ± 0.4Gy beam with a lateral dose variation of 7% and centred on 8MeV
      • The average uncertainty on their overall dose delivered was 12%
      • Beamline consists of a laser-driven source, quad doublet, kapton scattering foil, dipole magnet, mouse ear, RCF and scintillator
        • Laser-driven source ran at 7J over 60fs, so lower power than SCAPA, and onto a 13um Kapton target (same as SCAPA).
          • The laser was 50um from its optimal focal length to achieve a better shot-to-shot variation. This helped reduce it from 17% to 5%
        • Quads are a 250 T/m with 5mm bore radius and 67T/m with 15mm bore radius
        • Kapton scattering foil is 25um and is placed there to smooth the beam and remove heavier ions
        • Dipole magnet of 264mT and 95mm in length removes x-rays, gamma-rays and electrons
        • 25um Kapton exit window
        • The mouse ear is ~300um so it allows 8MeV protons to pass through and reach RCF and a scintillator passed that
        • Other diagnostics are integrating current transformers
          • Would be worth investigating in combination with sci-fi arrays for instantaneous dose measurements
      • They delivered a shot every 20s, so they investigated instantaneous FLASH rather than overall FLASH
      • Josie will simulate the beam to get a better understanding
        • LhARA knows someone at BELLA, so she is the person to ask if any information is missing
  1. SCAPA Beamline
  • Updates:
    • No update, but things discussed:
      • Is there something that can stop the lens element from burning? Maybe something that Ross used to use?
  1. In-Beam Diagnostic
  1. Other beamlines
  • Updates:
    • Josie is sourcing the information to simulate ELI
      • Nick suggested emailing since they are usually happy enough to share information
    • There is a space to apply for beamtime at ELI
      • Deadline is 22nd Apr
  1. DoNM
    • 19th Mar 14:00
  1. AoB

Summary of actions required

In-Beam Diagnostics

  • RW, CD: Study correlation between laser diagnostics and mean dose
  • CD, TP: Refine evaluations of LET in the cells with the RCF in front
  • CD: Predict the cell dish dose from the RCF in front of it
  • PH: Investigate how to get the light out of the vacuum chamber
  • Investigate how a phosphor sheet could be incorporated into the design
  • Acquire a glass sheet

Bio Next Steps

  • EM: Write up a biology plan
    • Decide whether to use Marie's lab and whether to stick with HeLa
  • EM, MB, JP, RA: Meet to finalise details
  • Unassigned: Obtain an inverted microscope
  • Unassigned: Run controls to examine how long the cells can survive vertically

Improve the spatial variation

  • Decide the energy we should be optimising for
    • RW: Examine energy spectra variation
    • Find LET for different energies in the cell dish

Other Beamlines

  • JMcG: Simulate BELLA
  • JMcG: Talk to ELI people and simulate ELI
  • Build a bid towards ELI

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