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     1= LhARA radiobiology; meeting: 21May26; 14:00 GMT =
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     3**ZOOM:** https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1
     4
     5== Meeting Agenda ==
     6
     7Plan for PoPLaR
     81. Next SCAPA beamtime
     9 - Dates: July/August
     10 - Determine a baseline:
     11  - A baseline of repeating phase 2 cell irradiations was set
     12
     132. Aim for October
     14 - Paper
     15  - Aim for a physics publication with reference to the biology results
     16 - Add to Phase 3 plan:
     17  - Comet analysis provides DNA damage results and relatively easy to complete but requires more cell irradiations
     18   - Neutral and alkaline analyses seem the best to study single- and double-strand breaks
     19   - Also see the variation across the cell dish
     20  - Compare this and the clonogenics to the cyclotron irradiation
     21 - Questions to answer:
     22  - Is the spatial variation acceptable?
     23
     243. Aim for Post-October
     25 - Desired work/papers
     26  - Include IF but it is unnecessary to do in Phase 3 due to the additional irradiations required
     27  - X-ray comparison: Feasible to be included in Phase 3
     28   - Would reproduce the same irradiation conditions (time out of incubator and vertical irradiation) as laser-driven protons
     29 - What do we need to know before we can plan more
     30  - Pre-proton electrons:
     31   - Could explore using the dipoles to remove these
     32   - Have finance for the dipole but need stands so unlikely to be Phase 3
     33  - LET measurement
     34   - LET detector researched but unknown if it will be available for Phase 3
     35
     364. ELI
     37 - Almost certainly post-October and ran out of time to properly discuss how this can be included in the plan.
     38
     395. Review steps required
     40 - Plan on Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTARVtxhLRu02S6CLdRDB2QlGvCqDfZ3aWBifjIFs_Q/edit?usp=sharing
     41 - Steps on Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/67587c515b0c69656ee78b48/ATTIe86f94b24e3e5884e4cb87e5ed3b89ab64321B83/poplar
     42 - Updates:
     43  - Diagnostics:
     44   - RCF:
     45    - Tony is delaminating some RCF and will compare with the delaminated EBT3 Mark supplied.
     46    - If we provide a batch we will use at SCAPA Tony can test this as well and do the calibration.
     47    - Suggestion that X-ray calibration removes the high-LET saturation effect.
     48    - Marie has offered to do the RCF calibration prior to travelling up
     49   - SciFi:
     50    - Peter has found a source for hollow fibre.
     51     - Cost: £300-400 for 15m, though Peter has money that can be put towards that.
     52     - Could do with a simulation to provide an order of magnitude estimate on the energy deposited on transport fibres
     53    - Tony has offered Birmingham to test the fibres before SCAPA
     54     - Make a package of everything we need and take to Birmingham
     55     - Also, would be able to test using a fibre around the cell dish here
     56      - Keep this simple at the start and just use one fibre
     57  - Bio:
     58   - Could potentially borrow Marie's inverted microscope but depends on other lab users
     59   - Marie is keen to meet up with Jason and Emma to help organise a dry run or testing on the control cell survival
     60
     616. DoNM
     62 - 28/05/26
     63
     647. AoB
     65 - IPAC submitted
     66
     67=== Summary of actions required ===
     68
     69In-Beam Diagnostics
     70- **Unassigned**: Acquire a glass sheet
     71- **Unassigned**: Get a new RCF batch and calibrate
     72- **PH**: Investigate how to get the light out of the vacuum chamber
     73- **CD**: Simulate energy deposited in transport fibres
     74- **KL, CD, JMcG, PH**: Make a full scifi prototype
     75- **KL, CD, JMcG, PH**: Discuss visit to Birmingham to test SciFi
     76- **RW, CD**: Study correlation between laser diagnostics and mean dose
     77- **Unassigned**: Investigate how a phosphor sheet could be incorporated into the design of the cell dish
     78
     79Bio Next Steps
     80- **EM, CD, JMcG**: Write up technical summary of Phase 2
     81- **EM**: Write up a biology plan for a 2 PMQ setup
     82- **Unassigned**: Obtain an inverted microscope
     83- **Unassigned**: Obtain multi-chamber haemocytometers (Might be able to use Birmingham's)
     84- **MB, JP, MB**: Meet up to plan cell survival dry run
     85- **EM*: Run controls to examine how long the cells can survive vertically
     86
     87Beamline Modelling
     88- **RW**: Examine energy spectra variation
     89- **RW, CD**: Source characterisation
     90
     91Other Beamlines
     92- **JMcG**: Simulate BELLA
     93- **JMcG**: Simulate ELI
     94
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